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Any Welsh Copper Smelter Workers in Your Family Tree?



Posted by mona everett on January 10, 2011 at 12:30pm in Genealogy
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Hi,

Just curious if any of the folks on Americymru trace their Welsh roots back to any copper smelter workers in South Wales? Particularly any that came to the US in the 1840s-50s to smelt copper in Baltimore, MD? My DAVIES/DAVIS and REESE/REES families lived in Llanelli (Seaside and Wern), Pontardulais (Llwyn Adam Farm), and Swansea (Cnap Coch) at least, before coming to the US.

I have not been able to find any living relatives in Wales and think it is a shame, as it is not that long ago that these people left for America.

Thanks!

Mona

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  Reply by thistle on January 10, 2011 at 1:04pm
Hi Mona --

I too have ancestors who came from Llanelli (Wern as well!) but mine ended up in the Pittsburgh/southwestern PA area. I noticed on your profile that you are researching the Rees surname...any chance that you have a Jane Rees (b. 1791, d. 3 January 1863) somewhere in your tree? I also noticed from your profile that you have Lewis ancestors - any chance that they were from Wern too? I'm trying to track down any info on my Lewis family who lived on Tunnel Road in Wern.

Nice to see someone else with Wern ties!!

  Reply by mona everett on January 10, 2011 at 1:12pm
Hi,
Here is my Davies/Davis info. Margaret REES/E married into this bunch (second generation). My LEWIS people were here in the US (Virginia and Tennessee--before 1776 and I have no idea where they came from before that--may not even have been Wales!

Will look for more REES/e info:


Descendants of David W. Davis b. abt. 1800 and brother Daniel
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1-Unknown
+Unknown
|--2-David W. Davis b. Abt 1800, Wales, d. 13 Jan 1854, Baltimore, MD, bur.
| Baltimore Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, superintendent at Copperworks
| +Mary b. Abt 1800, Wales, d. 29 Apr 1881, Baltimore , MD
| |--3-Thomas D. Davis b. Abt 1822, Wales, d. 25 Apr 1890, Baltimore, MD, bur.
| | 28 Apr 1890, Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, superintendent at Copperworks
| | +Unknown in Wales (likely GLA)
| | |--4-David W. Davis b. Abt 1842, (likely GLA) Wales, d. 2 Jan 1881, Bernalillo, NM,
| | | bur. Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | |--4-William Davis b. Abt 1844, (likely GLA) Wales, d. 17 Aug 1886, Baltimore, MD,
| | | bur. 19 Aug 1886, Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore, MD, copper smelter
| | +Margaret Reese b. Wales, d. Baltimore, Maryland (after the 1860 census), bur. Mt. Carmel
| | Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | |--4-Mary Davis b. 12 Sep 1851, Baltimore, Maryland, d. 1 Jan 1926,
| | | Baltimore, Maryland, bur. Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | +Jacob Crone b. Abt 1847, d. 1 Jan 1926, Baltimore, Maryland
| | | |--5-Mary Lillian Crone d. 16 Jun 1973, Baltimore, Maryland, bur. 19
| | | | Jun 1973, Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | |--5-Margaret Crone b. Abt 1870, d. 15 Feb 1872, Baltimore, Maryland
| | | |--5-Harry D. Crone b. Abt 1873, d. 1911
| | | |--5-Thomas D. Crone b. Abt 1878, Baltimore, Maryland, d. 7 May 1947,
| | | | Baltimore, Maryland, bur. Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | |--4-John L. Davis b. 16 Oct 1853, Baltimore, Maryland, d. 1 Sep 1938,
| | | Baltimore, MD, bur. 3 Sep 1938, Oak Lawn Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | +Maria A. Kelly b. Abt 1857, Maryland, d. 2 Apr 1909, East Chicago,
| | | IL, bur. 7 Apr 1909, Oak Lawn Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | |--5-Cora V. Davis b. Baltimore, Maryland, d. 8 Feb 1910, Mt. Hope
| | | | Retreat, Baltimore County, MD, bur. Oak Lawn Cemetery, Baltimore,
| | | | MD
| | | |--5-James Edgar Davis b. Baltimore , MD, d. 1938, Baltimore , MD
| | | |--5-Thomas Edwin Davis b. Abt Jun 1879, Baltimore, Maryland, d. 19
| | | | Jul 1880, Baltimore, MD, bur. 21 Jul 1880, Baltimore Cemetery,
| | | | Baltimore, MD
| | | |--5-Estella Davis b. 6 Jul 1875, Baltimore, Maryland, d. 17 Dec 1920,
| | | | Baltimore, MD, bur. 21 Dec 1920, Oak Lawn Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | |--5-Nattie May Davis b. Abt Jan 1878, Baltimore County, MD, d. 28 May
| | | | 1878, Baltimore, MD, bur. 30 May 1878, Mt. Carmel Cemetery,
| | | | Baltimore, MD
| | | |--5-Harry Benjamin Davis b. 31 Aug 1885, Baltimore, Maryland, d. 3
| | | | Nov 1944, New York, NY
| | | |--5-John Thomas Davis b. 6 Sep 1892, Baltimore, MD, d. 10 Sep 1973,
| | | | Tucson, AZ, bur. 13 Sep 1973, Southlawn, Tucson, AZ
| | |--4-Rosanna Davis b. Abt 1857
| | |--4-Thomas E. Davis b. Abt 1858, d. Abt 11 Jan 1930, Baltimore , MD,
| | | bur. 11 Jan 1930, Druid Ridge Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | +Henrietta T. d. Abt 2 Aug 1939, bur. 2 Aug 1939, Druid Ridge
| | Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | |--5-Henrietta Davis b. MD, d. Abt 21 Oct 1948, Colorado
| | +Catherine Rourke d. Baltimore, MD, bur. Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore,
| | MD
| | |--4-Estella Davis b. 23 Sep 1861, Baltimore, MD, d. 17 Feb 1949,
| | | Baltimore, MD, bur. Feb 1949, Druid Ridge Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | +Louis H. Fehsenfeld b. MD, bur. Druid Ridge Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | |--5-Theo Fehsenfeld
| | | |--5-Matilda Fehsenfeld d. 3 Mar 1946, Baltimore, MD, bur. 5 Mar 1946,
| | | | Loudon Park Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | |--4-Harry Bryant Davis b. 1 Jun 1866, Baltimore, MD, d. 10 May 1943,
| | | Union Memorial Hospital, Baltimore, MD, bur. 12 May 1943, Druid
| | | Ridge Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | +Jessie Patrick b. Herkimer, NY, d. 30 Jun 1920, Baltimore, MD, bur.
| | | Druid Ridge Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | | |--5-H. Braithwaite Davis b. Abt 1907
| | | +Edith Mann Stoughton bur. Druid Ridge Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| | |--4-Marion Davis b. Abt 1868
| | +Robert Earl
| |--3-John Davis b. Wales
| |--3-Sarah Davis b. Abt 1830, Wales, d. 13 Oct 1891
| +Thomas James b. Abt 1825, Wales, d. 12 Apr 1887, copper smelter
| |--4-Mary James b. Abt 1861, Baltimore , MD
|--2-Daniel Davis b. Abt 1813, Wales, d. 2 Feb 1866, Baltimore, MD, bur.
| Baltimore, MD (lived for awhile at Llwyn Adam, near Pontarddulais, GLA, Wales), superintendent of Copperworks
+Mary A. \\ b. Abt 1814, Wales
|--3-Sarah Davis b. Abt 1830, Wales
| +John Williams b. Abt 1829
|--3-Ann Davis b. Abt 1832, Wales
|--3-Elizabeth Davis b. Abt 1835, Wales
|--3-John Davis b. Abt 1837, Wales
|--3-Hannah Davis b. Abt 1840, Wales, d. 28 Jul 1912, Baltimore, MD, bur. 31
| Jul 1912, Mt. Carmel Cemetery, Baltimore, MD
| +David Davis
|--3-Daniel Davis b. Abt 1846
-------------------------------------------------------------
  Reply by mona everett on January 10, 2011 at 1:32pm
The REESE I am most interested in is:

John T. REESE, b. abt. 1822, Wales; married Elizabeth (maiden name MAY have been BEVAN, but not sure) in Wales; some of their children were baptized in Llanelli in the ealry 1830s, then they moved to Baltimore, Maryland, where he worked as a copper smelterman. They lived in Connecticut briefly, then went to Butte, Montana, where he continued to smelt copper. They both died in Butte, but are both buried in Baltimore. John REESE also lived for a short time on Llwyn Adam farm in Pontarddulais.

I also think John REESE had a brother Thomas (also a smelter) and Margaret REESE who married into my DAVIES line might have been their sister.

I cannot locate all the children's names that were baptized in Wales--will keep looking--haven't had time for this in over a year!

The key to my family is that copper smelter workers were close-knit!

Thanks,

Mona
  Reply by thistle on January 10, 2011 at 2:27pm
Hi Mona -

Here's an interesting thing...I also have one of the lines in my family that went from Llanelli to Connecticut! They seem to have gone back to Llanelli though! I wish that I could say that their surname was BEVAN, but it's BOWEN.

I've been trying to piece together bits of info on my Jane Rees (I just got a copy of her will a few weeks ago) and I learned a bit from that, but sadly, nothing about the rest of her line!

Have you been over to Llanelli? I've managed to visit a few times and I absolutely LOVE it. I'm hoping to go again sometime this Spring, so if you want me to check in to anything for you, just let me know!
  Reply by mona everett on January 10, 2011 at 2:35pm
Yes--I've been to Llanelli a couple of times and did some research there--but really wish I could go more often and stay longer! I found the parish registers with the baptisms at the National Library in Aberystwyth--also some place I need a lot more time! I don't know when I will get another chance to go for research--I was in Cardiff for 3 weeks this past summer, but only spent one day in Swansea and never made it anywhere else. There is always so much to do (and friends to see) that time flies. Any info about the copper works or what Wern was like pre-1841 would be great, but only if you stumble upon it! Were your BOWENs copper workers? When were they in CT? Have you had any luck finding living relatives in Wales?
  Reply by Rea Williams on January 10, 2011 at 7:04pm
Mona,

Google -- "Copper smelting: its history and processes / by Henry Hussey Vivian"
to see:
The Baltimore Copper Works
Page 84
Mr. Davis, chief smelter

Gunpowder Copper Works was operated by Levi Hollingsworth from 1811 to 1838
http://www.bcplonline.org/info/history/hist_pe_gunpowder.html
http://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?marker=21523

The Hafod Copperworks - Swansea 1810-1924
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/sites/swansea/pages/hafod_copp...

google -- "CG Hussey copper" to see:
A Genealogical and Biographical History of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania
The folks on these links listed abouve are all related to me, my roots are in Wales. I have Hussey, Reese (rees), Davis (davies), Bevan and Bowen in my families at http://rea-williams.com

Rea Williams
  Reply by mona everett on January 10, 2011 at 9:22pm
Rea--Have you sen the book, Hanes Cynry America? Check out pages 153-155 here:
http://ohio.llgc.org.uk/syllwr/arddangos_mets.php?xmlfile=HCA00001&...

The Davies and Reese people are mine!

I will go look at your webpage--we likely have relatives in common!

Mona
  Reply by mona everett on January 10, 2011 at 9:30pm
Hi, I don't see a connection on your webpage--maybe I am missing something. The ones at Gunpowder Falls in the mid-late 1800s and the ones in Canton, Baltimore, and I think the ones with the Hafod Works (or at least at Cnap Coch) are mine.

Help me out with the connection. Which of the people at Gunpowder Falls are yours? I was out there and saw the historic marker and the remaining buildings.

Thanks!

Mona


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 Comment by Richard Williams-Ellis on March 26, 2013 at 4:44am
My acccount of the "Aberffraw" lineage descent, as described, was limited to the male entitlement of " Princes of Gwynedd ", from Owain Gwynedd to the present day, and is, I think, accurate.Accordingly this did not take account of "Daughters", whether of Llewelyn's or subsequently, and I would, not being a Genealogist, get very lost in trying to trace such descendants as may - very well - exist. So, I  may be able to help to an extent with the Anwyls of Parc ( The Plas of Parc, Llanfrothen - near to where I live - is now owned by The Clough Williams-Ellis Foundation, and tenanted by a friend ) in so far as they were direct male descendants of Owain Gwynedd and my ( identifiable )direct male ancestors since. But, otherwise, I do not think that I can help very much? Good Luck! and  best wishes. And do contact as you wish. Richard
 Comment by Anumpeshi Aduddell on March 25, 2013 at 11:00am
MY MAIDEN NAME IS MASON AND I DESCEND THROUGH THE LINEAGE OF RALPH MORTIMER AND GWLADYS DDU AP LLYWELYN AP IORWORTH THROUGH MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER BRICKEY THREE TIMES REMOVED WHO EMIGRATED TO THE AMERICAS IN THE 1700'S WHERE SHE MARRIED MY MASON ANCESTOR JESSE JAMES MASON WHO WAS A NEPHEW OF WILLIAM MASON FIRST GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA. I HAVE ACCESS TO AN OLD FAMILY DIARY THAT ATTESTS TO THIS AS WELL AS OTHER INFORMATION APPERTAINING TO SAME. I AM CURRENTLY IN THE MIDST OF COMPLETING A PROJECT FOR A NON-PROFIT  ORGANIZATION REGARDING INDIGENOUS AMERICAN AFFAIRS OF WHICH I AM A PRINCIPAL OFFICER AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DESIGNATE TIME TO THE ACCUMULATION OF THE APPROPRIATE SUBSTANTIATING INFORMATION UNTIL THE FIRST OF THE MONTH OF APRIL. AT THIS TIME IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED ANY ASSISTANCE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE ME IN THIS REGARD. AS AN ASIDE JESSE JAMES MASON UPON THE DEATH OF HIS WIFE TOOK HIS SON BY THE BRICKEY LINEAGE UPON HIS SHOULDERS AND WALKED TO LOUISIANA TERRITORY INSPIRED BY THE MADOC AP OWAIN GWYNEDD STORY AND INTERMARRIED WITH THE CHOCTAW KINGS OF THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.
YN YR YSBRYD O PRINCE MADOC
NI YW'R DAWNSWYR YSBRYD
  Comment by Richard Williams-Ellis on March 25, 2013 at 6:16am
As indicated in my last "Comment" the Iorworth ap Owain Gwynedd lineage of the "Aberffraw" descent of the titular Princes of Gwynedd came to an end with the death of Owain Lawgoch in 1378. It then passed by male seniority to descendants of  Iorworth's younger half-brother Prince Rhodri ap Owain Gwynedd, ( his Mother was Owain's 2nd wife and cousin, Christina ).It was Robert ap Meredudd who succeeded in this new senior line. It died out with the last baronet of the Wynns of Gwydir, and then came to the descendants of his younger brother, Ieuan ap Maredudd, and thus  to Lewis Anwyl of Parc, died 1605. From his eldest son, William Lewis Anwyl, descend in the male line the extant Anwyls of Tywyn, the de jure Princes, and from his younger brother, Maurice ap Lewis Anwyl, descend the Williams-Ellis family ( including Clough of Plas Clough nee W-E ) of which I am one. We descend from Owain Gwynedd,( and HIS ancestors, Rhodri Mawr etc )Father to Son without break. My Grandfather, born 1833, and his elder brother ( Changed his name to Clough ) were the only two, but there are quite a few of us now. With the Anwyls of Towyn we are, I think, the only, and  genealogically well  recorded, family descendants now of Owain's , but v. happy to be corrected!?  Hence, also, a personal interest in Prince Magog ap Owain Gwynedd's possible discovery of America in 1170, he being a half-brother to my direct ancestor.....
  Comment by Anumpeshi Aduddell on March 21, 2013 at 8:46pm
DO YOU KNOW HOW I MIGHT MAKE CONTACT WITH THE ANWYL FAMILY. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING TAKING A TRIP TO WALES TO TRACE OUR WELSH DEEP ROOTS. BEFORE THIS WE WERE HOPING TO DO SOME BASIC FACT GATHERING HERE AS PREPARATION BEFORE GOING. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.
  Comment by Richard Williams-Ellis on March 21, 2013 at 10:14am
It is very interesting that you can trace your ancestry to Prince Iorworth ap Owain Gwynedd, who was in the senior lineage of the "Aberffraw" descent of the Princes of Gwynedd as their title ended with Owain Lawgoch's death, and the "Aberffraw" entitlement then transfered to the descendants of Prince Rhodri ap Owain Gwynedd. Some of them, including the Anwyl family the de jure Prince of Gwynedd's family are known and living still in Wales.
Descendents of Iorworth, father of Llewelyn the Great, particularly after Owain Lawgoch become rather uncertain, and then seem to  become unknown. so that new revelations would be great?
  Comment by Anumpeshi Aduddell on March 19, 2013 at 7:07pm
I AM JUST BEGINNING TO TRACE MY WELSH ANCESTRY WITH MY HUSBAND. WE ARE DISTANTLY RELATED; HE FROM NORTH POWYS AND EASTERN GWYNEDD AND MY ANCESTRY IS FROM GWYNEDD. WE ARE ALSO BRYTHONIC FRENCH (THE LE STRANGE FAMILY), WESTERN DANISH (THISTED) AND CHOCTAW (FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED BY THE US GOVERNMENT AS 1/4 BLOOD QUANTUM). DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL PROCEDURES ARE FOR RECOGNITION AS WELSH? IS THERE ONE? I CAN TRACE MY LINEAGE DIRECTLY TO THE HOUSE OF ABERFFRAU AND OWAIN GWYNEDD THROUGH IORWERTH.
  Comment by Ceri Shaw on October 5, 2011 at 10:23am
Important announcements coming soon in AmeriCymru Genealogy Group. Watch this space!
  Comment by mona everett on March 21, 2011 at 8:03pm
AS Wales’ First Minister he’s never far from the headlines.
But Carwyn Jones has opened up on his normally private family life to reveal the story of his great uncle.
Leading Aircraftman Edgar Hopkin, from Gwaun Cae Gurwen in Carmarthenshire, was killed while in Alabama in 1942 during World War II. He was Mr Jones’ great uncle on his father’s side.
Now Mr Jones is uploading photographs of the RAF pilot to historical website People’s Collection Wales, an archive of reminiscences, photographs, video and audio in the hope that others can learn his history.
Mr Jones told the Echo: “When my great aunt died in 1993 all the family heirlooms came to me – photographs, Edgar’s service card from the RAF.
“We knew a lot of his story already, he was one of five siblings, which included my grandmother, and he was the first in the family to be accepted to university.
“He was a collier’s son going to read medicine at Edinburgh University – but he never went.”
The First Minister and his family that Edgar, who was just 19 when he died, had been sent to the US for warm weather and didn’t when his aircraft got into difficulty.
“We knew he was buried in Newcastle, Pennsylvania, near other family members, and we even had a cine film of the funeral,” said Mr Jones.
“I decided to put his name into Google and it found pictures on . I decided to contact the site administrator who told me Edgar’s instructor was still alive.”
 Read More.

  Comment by mona everett on March 21, 2011 at 3:28pm
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If you’ve just started tracing your family tree, census records are the perfect first step. They list everybody in each household all over the country, together with crucial details such as their ages and birthplaces. So, you can quickly and easily collect names and dates for several generations.
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mona everett Comment by mona everett on January 10, 2011 at 12:26pm
    We're pleased to announce four genealogy workshops scheduled for the 2011 North American Festival of Wales!

    Read more about them and the 2011 NAFOW: http://americymru.net/group/northamericanfestivalofwales2011clevela...

Susan Thomas Thompson Comment by Susan Thomas Thompson on November 23, 2010 at 2:24am
    Just discovered a village page for Pencader, the ancestral home of my great grandfather Thomas Thomas. I loved seeing the pictures and getting a feel. It gives me a great loning to visit those villages and stand in those green valleys. Some dayI will get there...

Dai Williams Comment by Dai Williams on April 27, 2010 at 9:54am
    Now my mothers mothers side


    Elizabeth Felicia Gwendraith Bath Abercynon 1930's

    mother Velmai Harris Williams Married Joseph Bath Abercynon 1910's

    John Thomas Williams married Bronwen Harris Mountain Ash 1890's


    John Williams married Rachel Jenkins Dowlias 1850's


    Seth Harris married Elizabeth Camarthenshire 1840's


    David Harris married Mary Camarthenshire 1820's

Dai Williams Comment by Dai Williams on April 27, 2010 at 9:47am
    Just in case there are any relations out there I'll start with my father and his fathers side

    So My father Evan Glyndwr Williams Trefforest 1920's

    Evan Williams married Alice Kate Burt Trefforest 1900's

    Rees Williams Married Mary Davies Merthyr Tydfil 1860's

    Isaac Williams Married Ann ???? Merthyr Tydfil 1830's

Wendell Bowen Comment by Wendell Bowen on December 29, 2009 at 9:27pm
    I would think that we Emily and I agree that DNA is the best way to solve our genealogy puzzle.

Emily Doolin Aulicino Comment by Emily Doolin Aulicino on December 28, 2009 at 9:42pm
    Yes, Wendell, you are correct. They do not give you the result so you must use some computer skills to get it. I have two pages of directions for the Y and for the mtDNA if anyone needs it to get their result. I don't believe it is easy to contact people who match you, however. That is my goal with testing....to find others who match me so we can work together to find that common ancestor

    There are many who don't have the patience to glean their info, but maybe it is worth it to them for free. ALSO, it can take months to years to get your info on their website. Frankly, in my opinion, you usually get what you pay for.

    Sorenson's goal was to show that everyone is related. He asked for DNA and a pedigree chart to show that. Geneticists have told us for years we are all related. How in terms of genealogy is the concern. If I can't contact those who relate to me, then the whole think is worthless to me. However, others have used his company. I know many who have switched...whatever works for you is grand. I'm always pleased to see people testing. Genealogy isn't as accurate without DNA testing.

    I just do NOT want people to be disappointed in what they get from various companies. You really, really must have your goals and see what company best works for you. My blog site helps you with that.

    Best wishes,
    E

Wendell Bowen Comment by Wendell Bowen on December 28, 2009 at 9:22pm
    The site I gave you for DNA was founded by Sorenson who was a Utah Millionaire that left a foundation to continue Genealogy DNA research. They do not give you your results back, but you can figure out what your markers are once they put it on line. They do both the y and mtDNA. I both paid for my results and sent it to them and receive forty two markers that are all the same.
    My interest in the program is to identify cousins. Not for profit.

Ceri Shaw Comment by Ceri Shaw on December 28, 2009 at 8:19pm
    True....I think we'll probably tolerate that though. If I alter the the hyperlink I lose any links to the page that might be out there.

Ceri Shaw Comment by Ceri Shaw on December 28, 2009 at 8:02pm
    No worries I cant believe that no one ( myself included ) spotted that before. Many thanks for pointing it out.

Emily Doolin Aulicino Comment by Emily Doolin Aulicino on December 28, 2009 at 6:28pm
    Thanks on correcting the name of the group! LOL....sorry to be such a teacher!


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